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Postby tristancliffe » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:20 pm

I'm aware of the horrible task of maintaining a club website, and I know Stephen works hard to keep it all going, but I thought we could steal some stuff from the ARP/BRSCC/Club F3 website to make ours a little more... personal.

1. Registered drivers - with a little tiny graphic of the car livery/colour, and a few details about them. Perhaps they could be user submitted, although the vast variety of cars might make pictures too much work. e.g. http://www.clubf3.co.uk/drivers.htm

2. Contact details for some of the people on the committee page, if, of course, they are happy to have them divulged. e.g. http://www.clubf3.co.uk/contacts.htm

3. I've run out of ideas, but having just too looked silly, so this one is just to pad it out a bit.
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Re: Website additons

Postby jmtechnical » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:35 pm

Tristan

I have tried the driver profiles before and got a big grand total of ZERO returns for information. You only have to look at how little people put on here to see most wont supply info. If people want to prove me wrong then great send me the stuff and I will add it.

We have contact details for the club and the rest of it is in the year book. I don't think we should put contact detials of each on the web may get abit dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on you must be bale to come up with some more ideas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need them to push it forward. Make the css version easier to write !!

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Re: Website additons

Postby Dave » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:55 pm

I've just read Tristans suggestions and Stephen's reply.
Whilst I don't want my details, so to speak, spread all over the internet, I had a look at the F3 site following the Tristan link.
The 2009 driver table in there has only one entry at the moment with the driver to be confirmed but my first reaction was good.
Their table shows 7 columns.
Column 1 is the class entered. 2, I assume is a small car picture which might be difficult. Perhaps not. Column 3 is the race number. 4 is the drivers name. 5 is the entrants name. 6 is the chassis type. 7 is the engine type.
No telephone numbers or other information.

If we had a similiar table in the Mono site it might be handy for outside viewers. Particularly if we had an additional column giving chassis age. If more people realised that you don't need an almost new chassis to compete we might get a few more entries.
It would also be nice for the current members. If the table was updated when either an existing or new member subscribed.
The story would build up week after week until Snetterton but we could see before that who's coming out to play this year and in what.
I think it would be relatively easy to input, with the possible exception of the car picture and once in would only require updating for new members or for the next year. Even then not much work as the majority of us keep the same number and most the same car.
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Re: Website additons

Postby jmtechnical » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:04 pm

Guys
Lets give it another try then.

If we are to get the below information. How do we get it ?
Class - Race No - Name - Entrant - Chassis - Engine + Picture of car

1. On here by post or pm , email ?
2. Form on the website ?
3. From the entry list ?
4. Another ?

The biggest problem is the ones you mention only have 1 grid to look after not 2 like us. They also have nearly one chassis making it easy to do. We have shed loads. I will do this but I think befoe I put it on the web we need at least a 50% take up ? Otherwise it will just look stupid.

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Re: Website additons

Postby Dave » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:14 pm

Stephen

Although it has to be confirmed most of the info is there already.
I know i'm in Mono 1600 and since I swapped numbers with you am 16. My car is a Reynard.
You're now 66 in a Speeds etc. If that's what you're doing this year.
But Simon gets the data when people rejoin the club. It's a simple excel spreadsheet other than the car photograph.
I think it would be worth doing.
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Re: Website additons

Postby tristancliffe » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:40 pm

Can be build up from the entry lists and race results, as well as known competing memberships in the club's files. The pictures are a little tricky, as we can't just colour in a generic Dallara picture, what with 95% of members having cars of very different sizes and shapes. But maybe that's not important - three or four 'versions' of the generic picture, for the different vague styles of car might be enough - could help the interested individual track down a driver they like in the Gallery without too much hassle (but do people actually do this?)

The club will know who is driving, what their number is, what their current car and engine is, and gleaming entrant isn't difficult either where applicable (see race entries).

I do understand that it's additional work, and that it probably wouldn't all be compiled in a day, but having the space for it, and adding some as we go along. The changes between each year are smaller, so it's not much work between seasons.

Anyway, it was just a thought, rather than an absolute request.
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Re: Website additons

Postby samier » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:21 pm

I think its a good idea...Tristan!

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Re: Website additons

Postby samier » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:24 pm

Stephen, If you need a hand with any of the website stuff, I am more than happy to help.

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Re: Website additons

Postby jmtechnical » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:12 pm

You may regret that offer.
CMS is proving fun :evil: to try and get it to work for all our members.

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Re: Website additons

Postby Shakeyfinch » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:49 pm

Is a 7 column table as described not just duplication of existing data in the form of entry lists which Stephen already posts before each event?

What you can't see from the F3 site is that, when operational, you are meant to be able to drill down into a whole host of driver details - years racing, favourite circuit, wins...the usual stuff. Effectively a commentary form online. Problem with it is, as Stephen has already alluded to, if the majority of drivers don't do it it becomes a detraction rather than a benefit. The CF3 site last year had approximately 5 profiles filled out from probably 30 entries. I can't see Mono being any better for a number of reasons, not least people don't like filling those things out and having them posted on the net.

All for making the show better and utilising any means to raise the profile of the Mono club and its competitors, just not sure this will actually achieve it and there is nothing more annoying than a website that appears out of date of incomplete.

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Postby tristancliffe » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:13 pm

Mark, it is a form of duplication, but instead of showing only those entered for a particular meeting it would show all registered for the championship. I don't think the second layer of information - years racing, favourite circuit is important at all, because as you say it'll never be updated, and only a few profiles would bother with it.

But I like the snazzy list CF3.co.uk has for the drivers, and have used it before when reading race reports or looking at the galleries to work out who is who (I'm not au fait with the participants of BRSCC F3 yet!)
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Re: Website additons

Postby andrewcliffe » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:27 am

A small biography wouldn't be difficult and doesn't need to contain any specific personal details - Name, Town, Car, class, race number etc which are all published in the race programme and a few details - any well known first owners of the car, first event, best event, things like that and a few easy stats. Makes things look a bit more personal and open.

Its also worthwhile filling in the commentator sheets as often they are stuck for words and have to pad things out and those that do fill out the sheets get a lot more airtime than those that do not!
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Re: Website additons

Postby phuston » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:35 am

Sorry chaps I don't share your enthusiasm for this project.

Viewed from the club perspective it will not be productive to have competitor's lists only composed out of those who are IT enthusiasts, remember that some competitors are not computer literate. The alternative is for someone (a director?) to spend an appreciable amount of time on the enterprise, an enterprise that I doubt will be of any real benefit to the club because some will not provide details just as they don't provide commentator's sheets.

As evidence I would offer the commentator's sheets. I have just checked and I still have the file, having collected it at Snetterton and forgotten to return it to Stephen. The club attempts to ease the commentator's task by providing a file of sheets. However, the file is incomplete, at least 50% of the competitors have no sheets, and some sheets date from earlier years. Being generous, some sheets are barely legible. On occasion sheets are out of date, describing competitors as novices when that term no longer applies, and some have changed classes. There may be some advantages to commentator sheets handed in on the day of the race!

If such a list is attempted it would be as well to integrate it with commentator's information. I know that Jedi and Club F3 have coloured in profiles of cars but they have advantages that we don't have, namely cars with similar silhouettes and fewer competitors. What we do have thanks to Andrew Cliffe is an extensive archive of photographs. With his permission it would be easier to select appropriate photographs than to start colouring in profiles of cars.

A photograph of my car will be published with this item, where is your car's photograph Dave?

A final thought and a relatively rapid way to get the process started. Why don't we add photographs of director's cars to their photographs on the Website?
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Re: Website additons

Postby samier » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:54 pm

I keep hearing that there are people who are not computer literate, well that is unfortunate. I am not talking about driver profiles here.

What is the problem and objections in making a presentable website for the club? Can be a good selling point if everything is professionally done. I would have thought association with TRC would be more reason to do so?

Those who wish to live in Fred Flinstone times can do so! :wink:

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Re: Website additons

Postby andrewcliffe » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:13 pm

Certainly - use my photos where required.
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