http://www.fastroadandtrack.co.uk/frat/ ... 4fe9cbff43

seems cheapish, looks nice, is it terribly old and uncompetitive?

i'm more than capable of whatever work it needs to return it to mono spec. is the rs2000 engine it quotes as being in peices mono legal?

thanks.

That is the car I started in Mono with in 2001, I bought it off Richard Purcell in 2000 as a F2000 8V car and then converted it to a 16V. The RS2000 engine is powerful but very heavy, it is legal for Mono Classic in standard form.
Did about 8 races in it and sold it to a sprinter. I then bought a FVL off Dermot, immediately went much faster and had far more confidence in the car.
You will need to factor in the cost of belts/extinguisher/circuit wings/circuit tyres before it could race in Mono.
I know it looks good, but I would leave it to the hillclimbers.
One of Dermot's Vauxhall juniors would be a better bet for starting in Mono, especially a 16V one.

This is the car at Snetterton in 2001

Thanks for the info Russ. I'm not really to keen of the fvj. wanted a 2000 realy.

thanks.

Modified and set up 16 valve, RS 2000 Engine x twin DCOE 45s.
Ported Head.
Uprated Solid Lifter Kent cams and verniers. (Dyno 197 bhp@Flywheel.).

Legal in Mono?

Apparently so!

FVL or FVJ?

If you are after a 'Budget' 2L car then Lenny Coleman might be able to help.
I dont have his details here, try Simon Davey for contact info.

Perhaps that had too much emphasis on the 'budget'. the thing is though, there doent seem to be any middle ground between a 5k FVL and a 15k dallara (that isnt a formula ford). or am i missing something?

I run an RS2000 16v, it is heavy but a good strong engine with lots of torque and the weight gives me a good excuse for my poor performance
It would be worth calling Dermot though, he always has a few options and knows whats around / available and will give you good honest advice. 07703162409

We're all part of Dermots supporters club really!

Mark Bates at Shaws Motorsport was selling a couple of FVL's - might be worth a call on 01455 842884.

mark

What about this:

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/2 ... _9995.html

or this:

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/2 ... duced.html
(with some modification)

I think Dermot has an F3 Toms for sale, too (not the on that was in Mono a while go)

Andy

thanks Andy, they're both very pretty cars, but i dont think i could put myself through the agony of owning something with an Alfa engine!! (specially an f3 spec one) i owned a Sud years ago, and that experience left me scarred for life. same goes for the magnum too really, nice car, nice price, easy enough conversion but where on earth would you get spares from? from what i can see on the internet, they only made 7 of them!!

i was under the impression that Dermot had sold the Toms he had, i spoke to him afew weeks ago and he didnt mention it?

Thanks, Tony.

Don't remember our conversation but that is old age for you.....but yes TOMs has been sold.....but i have other things. However my experience is that extensive posting about car purchases tends to prevent, rather than encourage, purchase & participation. Even when the posters do buy something, endless prior internet forum discussion seems often to correlate with a less than happy motorsport debut. The last three customers of mine who posted extensively prior to purchase came to a stickly end - one hit the barriers on first outing, another neglected to tell his wife about the purchase & received 'words of advice' which terminated his race career, & the third bought the car and now seems to have disappeared, having run out of excuses about why he isn't out racing.

I've owned the bulk of the cars you are discussing (not just the model but the individual cars) and any one of them would provide a mixture of very enjoyable racing and endless aggravation.....but that is the nature of motorsport.

Really....why not just buy something/anything you like the look of & then fix it when it breaks/misbehaves? Car purchase is the cheap & easy bit of motorsport....single seaters at this level tend to hold their value ....it is all the other stuff: helmet/underpants/digital thing that seemed a good idea at the time/licence/medical/transponder/ards test/hans/entry fees etc etc expenses that make it expensive

Whatever it is, if you go slowly you can blame the car, if you go quickly you can take the credit, if you go very quickly your 'friendly' competitors will mumble & protest your car is not legal.

I much prefer my 'tried and testing' method:

If you go quickly, it's the car. If you go slowly, it's the driver. If you go very quickly indeed, it's the car plus the new set of tyres. If you retire (mechanical), it's something your Dad made. If you retire (spin/crash/contact) then it was the conditions or the other driver.

Never take the credit for going quickly yourself, as it'll only come back to haunt you when you're slow or crash next time out. I know from 'experience'!